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After coming out and saying that Liberals hate real Americans, Robin Hayes now denies he said anything of the sort.

Unfortunately for him, the comments were recorded:



Do Republicans just not understand the concept of audio and video tape?

Thanks to some sharp sleuthing at BlueNC, we seem to have caught Kay Hagan being less than honest about her reasons for running for the Democratic senate primary, after very pointedly declaring she did not intend to run.



Hagan was quite specific about why she wouldn't run:

“I’ve done a lot of searching on this,” Hagan said. “I feel very good with where I am in my political career, and I enjoy what I’m doing.”

Jim Neal announced he would run on Oct. 5th, and Hagan made it plain she would not on Oct. 9th.

Then, suddenly several weeks later, Hagan has second thoughts about running, then on Oct. 30th, announces she will run.

It would seem that the Democratic Party, perfectly willing to have no candidate to run against Dole just a few weeks earlier, was now very upset at the prospect of a gay man representing the party in a run against Dole. And while Mike Easley was happy to play a game of Jim? Jim who? no one in the press had the nerve to ask him or Hagan whether this was the reason for the change of heart.

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Update: Three cheers for Mark Binker who DID in fact ask an impolite question.

Before, she said, "I was looking at the best interest of 160,000 people here in Guilford County." But recent events in Washington, she said, convinced her that she "can really best serve the people of North Carolina by being a fresh voice in Washington."Did the fact the one other entrant in the Democratic primary, Jim Neal,acknowledged he was gay have anything to do with your re-entry in the race, either in your own decision making or the motives of those who urged you to run?

"That had absolutely no bearing on Kay Hagan's decision," she said.

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It therefore fell to some scruffy and rude blogger to ask the question.

Why did you reverse yourself on running for the U.S. Senate? Did party officials ask you to run because they did not believe an openly gay candidate could win against Dole?

To which she responded:

I decided to get in this race when Elizabeth Dole voted against the SCHIP program. On a personal level, I couldn’t believe she’d leave kids without insurance and on a professional level, I knew we in the legislature would have to AGAIN pick up where Washington’s fallen short. North Carolina deserves someone who advocates for them first and foremost.

Notice the difference in her answers? Notice how she completely avoided answering the direct question the second time around? Notice in the first interview the creepy reference to herself in the third person? Gee, didn't Bob Dole used to do that?

Anyway, Hagan claims in one interview that nameless recent events in Washington are her reason for changing her mind. In the second, she specifically states that it was Elizabeth Dole's S-CHIP vote that was the key issue.

Well, here's the problem. Dole voted three times against S-CHIP, once on Aug. 2nd, again on Sep. 27th, and finally on Nov. 1st, two days after she announced she was running after all.

This time line raises interesting questions. Taking Hagan at her word that she entered the race to protect the poor children of NC from their callous treatment at the hands of Dole, why did she initially say, with considerable conviction, she wasn't going to run, despite the fact that she knew Dole voted against the S-CHIP program as recently two weeks before? I mean if the plight of the little children bothered Hagan so much, you would think that her Oct. 9th statement about not entering the race would not have been so categorical.

It seems to me that the evidence points to a less savory and more cynical reason for changing her mind, and that is she was pushed into it by the Party Machine in order to dislodge a gay man.

Pam Spaulding lays out more evidence of the DSCC's complicity in the matter, specifically that their web site mentions Hagan prominently as Dole's challenger, with Neal an "also running".

Add to this Hagan's refusal to answer questions from North Carolina's top blogger on LGBT issues, and it pretty much clinches the question. Rather than stand up for a core constituency, the NC Democratic Party and the DSCC are prepared to sabotage a qualified candidate for senate because he's gay.

Now before some of the more "pragmatic" crowd lecture me about being "realistic", let me ask a question. Does anyone care to speculate the reaction from North Carolina's African American population would be if the same tactic were use against a black candidate? Can you see the party pretty much abandoning a race to the GOP, but as soon as a black man filed for the seat, they immediately "persuaded" a white candidate to run against him, while the party leaders professed complete ignorance?

Despite this deceit, Hagan, the state party and the DSCC expect gays and lesbians to loyally shell out their vote and their money to unseat Dole. Perhaps Hagan can explain why this should happen when Dole's position and theirs are functionally the same?

And while we are on the subject of the differences between Hagan and Dole, the state senator took the opportunity to answer a question I didn't ask her when she was professing her concern for the children of NC.

And let me say this – a lot of people have misinterpreted my position on SCHIP, and a lot of people, quite frankly, have said I’m “Elizabeth Dole lite” about this.

If I were in Washington, we would not have had to choose between health insurance for kids and taxing our tobacco farmers. People seem to assume the bill had to be written that way, but it didn’t, so it is a false choice to ask whether I would have supported the bill that was voted on. I would have tried to find an alternative funding stream, I would have made noise and lobbied my colleagues. I believe I would have been effective, but if I were not, and the bill remained as it was, I would have, of course, voted to provide health insurance to our state’s neediest children.

First off, any time you hear a politician talk about "tobacco farmers", you need to realize they are really talking about cigarette companies.

Second, Hagan uses the typical dishonest ploy of equating taxes on smokers as a tax on farmers. You can argue its the same thing, but its not.

Third, what was Elizabeth Dole's reason for voting against S-CHIP?

She argued that the proposed $35 billion expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program should not be paid for with an increase on the tobacco tax.

"It's all being done on the backs of one state's economy," Dole said. "A 156 percent increase in tax on tobacco and all related aspects affects 255,000 people. Why should one state be paying for something that affects 50 states?"

She said she supports better health care for children, but not the recent bill.

"I think any elected official saying they were for that provision ... they just really don't get it in terms of how much it would hurt the economy," she said.

By economy, she means the economy of RJR, Philip-Morris and Liggett & Myers.

Anyway, here we see the difference between Hagan and Dole. Dole will sacrifice anyone, including children, to her masters peddling death to the public. Hagan, however, draws the line at placing children on the altar of corporate profit, but only if there is absolutely no other choice.

For North Carolina tobacco farmers, and by that I really mean Big Tobacco, Hagan's is, in fact, the better choice in the long run. Dead children can't be enticed to smoke cigarettes, which means a loss 30-40 years of profit per kid, if a smoker dies in childhood.

And THAT is the real difference between Elizabeth Dole and Kay Hagan.

Hagan says her 10 years mean she's ready to roll
Greensboro News & Record

State Sen. Kay Hagan stood among friends — about 1,000 teachers and principals — at the N.C. Association of Educators convention in Fayetteville this month .

The politically potent teachers group had already endorsed Hagan, one of two leading Democrats who want to take on U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole, a Republican, this fall.

"We have the opportunity this year to elect someone who I know will be accessible to us because she's been accessible to us already," said Eddie Davis, the group's president. Unlike Dole, who has not met with the group in recent memory, Hagan's door has been open, Davis said.

"What I want to do is give Miss Liddy Dole a pair of ruby red slippers," Hagan told the group, trotting out a well-worn campaign line. "So she can click her heels three times and go home to Kansas."

Heh. Yeah this must be part of the mature discourse Democratic "leaders" are always lecturing me about. Heh, heh. Liddy's a witch. Know what else rhymes with "witch"? Isn't that funny.

It was slightly amusing the first 30 times I heard Hagan say it, now it is just damned pathetic.

Hagan tells groups large and small that "Washington is broken" and that she will work across party lines to craft legislation.

What broke Washington was the Democratic delusion that the Republicans can be worked with and that they will play fairly. Hasn't happened and is not going to happen.

"I think, especially in a room like this, to heck with the Republicans and their plans; they haven't worked," said Johnny Kaleel, chairman of the Democratic Party in Sampson County. "I want to hear about: 'Let's focus on what we think is the right thing to do and what we know historically has been the right thing to do, and then gather the Democratic majorities, and let's make it happen.' "

Yep! But then, this fellow is engaging in "partisan politics".

Later, on a drive between events, Hagan is unapologetic.

"I'm a pragmatic person, and I'm a realist; that's who I am. I think to have effective government at the U.S. congressional level, in order to get something done, especially in the Senate, you've got to work across party lines," she said. By and large, she said, most voters are sick of partisan infighting.

WE.ARE.NOT.SICK.OF.PARTISAN.POLITICS!!!

We are sick of elected "leaders" who allow the other side to engage in partisan politics, but then roll over when it is time to fight back, all in the name of some bizarre sense of "collegiality".

Characterizing standing up to Republican bullying and lawbreaking as "partisan politics" is right out of the Karl Rove play book. The only people who say "most voters are sick of partisan infighting" are Republicans, and Democrats voting with Republicans.

State Sen. Kay Hagan and Chapel Hill investment adviser Jim Neal agree on a few things: Incumbent Elizabeth Dole has not returned to North Carolina enough and has voted too consistently with President Bush, for example.

But there are differences between the two.

On the children's health insurance bill vetoed by President Bush that Congress failed to override:

Hagan: Said she would have worked to reduce the bill's reliance on raising tobacco taxes before it was passed but would have ultimately voted in favor.

Translation, cigarettes are more important than kids.

Sorry. If you make your living with tobacco, you are peddling poison. That's a fact. There is nothing unfair about requiring you to pay for the harm you are doing.

On the federal wiretapping bill and granting immunity from legal actions to telephone companies that cooperated with the government:

Hagan: Has not taken a firm stand on the FISA bill but said that each particular version needs to be viewed on its own merits. "I think it depends on which amendment you're looking at and which bill you're looking at, and we've got to look at all of that and see what's best for North Carolina."

Bullshit!

You took a very firm and direct stand on this issue until it started working against you. You said you favored immunity for telcos who had aided the government in illegal wiretaps.

What is "best for North Carolina" is that people who violate the law be prosecuted. Why is this even a question for Hagan?

On what to call their Republican opponent:

Hagan: Frequently calls her "Miss Liddy," offering to give her a pair of "ruby red slippers" so she can find her way home to Kansas.

Neal: "She is Senator Dole or Elizabeth Dole. I don't know her; I don't have permission to call her by her nickname."

Which seems more mature to you?

Hagan is now trying to pretend her view on FISA and teclo immunity is complex and nuanced. It isn't. She supports allowing corporations to commit thousands of violations of the law without penalty. She is offering the justification that this is could somehow be "best" for North Carolina.

Activists favoring Neal for Senate
Greensboro News & Record

Ask 10 voters who identify themselves as "progressive" Democrats what their wing of the party believes in, and you might very well get 10 different answers.

Passionate and motivated, progressives — particularly the activists among them — are not given to lockstep thinking.

Still, those who identify themselves as progressives seem to be rallying more to Chapel Hill financial adviser Jim Neal than to Greensboro state Sen. Kay Hagan .

The voting bloc is far from decisive. But if the trend holds, it could be good news for Neal, whose campaign relies on the grass-roots one-on-one politicking that progressive activists favor.

I am not a fan of the word "progressive". The word was taken up by folks on our side when conservatives successfully demonized the word "liberal". By using "progressive" instead of "liberal" we help conservatives destroy the discourse by redefining words.

Of course, gaining the support of progressives is not necessarily a path to victory. Although the progressive wing of the party includes activists who will staff phone banks and knock on doors, it does not control the traditional levers of power. Moderate Democrats, who are more sympathetic to businesses, have more fundraising clout, and they comprise a larger portion of sitting legislators.

People who buy into this line of reasoning do so at their peril. You can't win elections without ground troops, which is not a task the "traditional levers of power" sully their hands with. They are looking to BUY politicians, we are looking to elect LEADERS.

Hagan is not giving up on the progressive vote. In an interview Friday, she declined to place herself in any one philosophical camp, but said her campaign's emphases on providing health care to all and ending the war in Iraq should appeal to all voters, including progressives.

"I think they want to get rid of (incumbent Republican) Elizabeth Dole as much as I do," Hagan said.

Neal, too, was reluctant to pigeonhole himself.

"I've never given a great deal of thought to whether I'm a conservative Democrat or a progressive," he said. "I'd like to describe myself as an open-minded Democrat."

This is a VERY disappointing comment from Neal. By rejecting the word liberal, he gives unspoken credence to the conservative tactic of making it a derogatory term, thus he has done half of the Republican's job for them.

There are three groups in the Democratic party at the moment:

1) People helping Bush destroy the Constitution (Vichy Democrats like Lieberman, and ANY Dem who voted for the FISA bill)

2) People who worship at the altar of "bi-partisanship" and "compromise", and by their stupidity and cupidity, help Bush destroy the Constitution.

3) People who actively and aggressive oppose the destruction of the Constitution and are fighting to restore the parts eroded away in the last seven years.

The last group are Liberals, and that is the group that Hagan expresses disdain for, and Neal appears to be expressing shame for.

Expressing an opinion that the country has become a de-facto police state, is met by folks like Hagan and the NC Democratic Machine with either condescension or sneering contempt. Apparently the truth is too too uncouth, too shocking for them to stomach and they get a case of the vapours when anyone is rude enough to make this point.

How the Hell would these folks deal with comments like this?

Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry

Golly, gee willikers, Batman, it sounds like this fellow is actually saying that we should be ready to die for liberty.

I can hear folks like Hagan now.

"Yes, Mr. Henry, that was a nice speech, but if you really want to win elections you have to take a more diplomatic tone. We must reach across the aisle to our Tory colleagues and work together in the spirit of bi-partisanship to insure the security of the colonies. Such a divisive tone will make it impossible for us to accomplish comity with the King."

Sheesh.

Meanwhile Neal, who is running as an outsider, would be the first openly gay U.S. Senate nominee in the state's history.

"I really don't think Jim Neal has much of a chance," said Lee Baker , a UNCG professor who describes himself as torn between the two candidates. "I have no difficulties with that orientation at all, but we live in North Carolina, which is a very conservative state."

Baker said while he philosophically finds himself sympathetic to Neal, he wants someone who can defeat Republican Elizabeth Dole.

But others reject that logic, saying that old political bulwarks no longer apply.

This is a very tired meme. Not long ago, Obama was unelectable because he was black. People really need to stop living in the Jesse Helms' era. Obama is bringing out a LOT of young voters, people who have NO problem with being gay. In fact, if the contest for the Dem nomination is still undecided, Neal stands a good chance of winning the nomination, AND defeating Dole. What the Hell is Dole going to run on? Her service to NC? When has that damned carpetbagger ever been in the state, never mind helped any North Carolinian beyond the upper 1% who bought her?

Kay Hagan's worship of bi-partisanship and compromise represent the same policies that have failed us and lost us elections for the at least 16 years.

I was very aggravated that the reporter failed to mention that Hagan had said she would have voted FOR the FISA bill, specifically she would have voted FOR immunity for Telecomms that committed multiple felonies (hundreds, if not thousands of violations, in fact), by permitting Bush warrantless wiretaps. This was a critical omission by the reporter (or his editor), since it is at the core of the opposition now building against Hagan.

In this, Ms. Hagan found lots of companionship. People who claim that in the interests of fairness (multi-billion dollar corporations are such an oppressed minority in this country), compromise, and national "security", many of them voted in favor of the bill This is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that got us into Iraq, squandered countless American and Iraqis lives, burned through a half-trillion dollars, and utterly debased our Constitution.

To those individuals, I close with a picture of that crystallizes the actions of "bi-partisan" fetishists like Hagan, and a snippet of Patrick Henry which should stand as a stark caution of where that type of thinking has led us, and will lead us if pursued.

Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love?

Update: In light of Ms. Hagan's support of Telco immunity in the FISA, I must regretfully withdraw any support for her candidacy.

Kay Hagan, presumptive Democratic senatorial candidate for NC was in Greensboro last night to touch base with the party faithful and drum up support for her campaign against absentee senator and all out disgrace Elizabeth Dole.

Before I get into the particulars of the meeting let me address a few points.

Ms. Hagan is a NC state senator and has done an excellent job representing her constituents. If she wins the primary and defeats Liddy Dole, it will be a tremendous step forward and I have every confidence she will do us proud, as the saying goes.

That said, I went to the meeting last night in search of a leader, but only found a politician. A conscientious and ethical politician by all appearances, but a politician none the less.

Things started out well, and she said all the right things. We needed to address the health care crisis, Iraq required a diplomatic, not a military solution, NC needed someone to represent all its citizens, not just those with lots of money. My cynical heart began to thaw, and the hope that I found someone I could support without reservation began to tingle. Then, at the very end, she evoked the dreaded "B" word. She would strive for bi-partisanship.

The crackling sound was my heart freezing back over and hope dying in the cold.

Whether Ms. Hagan is aware of it or not, "bi-partisanship" to those of us unashamed of the word "liberal", is code for "Guess when I am going to sell you down the river?".

Even for those who would never betray their principles for "bi-partisanship", the term when used by a Democrat in any way other than contemptuously reveals a dangerous naivety about reality. "Bi-partisanship" has only one definition amongst the Washington elite (pundits and politicians): The Republicans always get their way. The Democrats always accommodate them. Any Democrat who doesn't understand this has not been paying attention to political events in Washington for at least the last decade.

I addressed this point in the Q&A part of the meeting and I was the last person to address her.

Now, I will be perfectly frank. I make speeches to drive home my point or question. This can be VERY annoying to politicians who are used to dominating the rhetorical ground with their own speeches, but then again, in my book, such things are what separate the politicians from the leaders.

And I was pretty wound up given the betrayal YET AGAIN of liberal and Democratic principal on the altar of "bi-partisanship". Reid changed the rules on the FISA debate to make an actual filibuster impossible. As a result, the telcos were granted immunity for crimes they committed at the behest of George W. Bush.

Let me reiterate this betrayal. Harry Reid had a clear choice between the rule of law and protecting his corporate masters. He chose to serve his corporate masters.

So, I mentioned this betrayal. I also mentioned Scalia's novel interpretation of the Constitution and its lack of clarity on torture. I made plain that 14 years of "bi-partisanship" had rendered us a de facto police state. Yes, I used that dreaded to term, derided by "serious politicians" as hyperbole. To compound my sin, I also called the current administration "fascist clowns". Nothing gets you labeled a "dirty fucking hippy" than using the word fascist to describe the administration, no matter how true the description is.

At one point during my remarks, Ms. Hagan smiled and interrupted with "Do you have a question?" This further solidified her as a politician in my book, since it is the standard reaction of an annoyed politician who sees they are losing control of the conversation and the topics are shifting into dangerous territory. The fact that several of my points got applause and vocal support didn't help.

Is this about ego? Partially, since standing up to question authority always requires a bit of ego. Then, why are our politicians the only ones allowed to have an ego?

My remarks tapped into the visceral anger that quite a few people felt about what our country has become in the last 14 years of "bi-partisanship". Ms. Hagan, in my unhumble opinion, didn't want to go there.

She was tolerant of my rudeness, and let me have my say, but in the end my question was "are you going to fight or are you going to be "bi-partisan"?". And in the end, she didn't really answer the question.

After the Q&A, she started heading for the door. I was not the person she wanted to speak to further. But, I am not deterred, and approached her for the opportunity to have my question answered privately.

I hoped.

She was polite and gracious, but she didn't have much use for my way of thinking. She departed quickly, her discomfort with me obvious.

To her credit, Chris, one of her staffers sought me out after she left, gave me his card and sought to address my concerns (making it explicitly, and appropriately clear he spoke only for himself, not Ms. Hagan). He assured me that he was a die hard liberal himself, and he would not be working on the campaign if didn't believe in Ms. Hagan and what she stood for.

His loyalty and faith were touching, and he made me sad that I was no longer that idealistic. His faith in his Boss re-assured me that we were in decent hands, despite my misgivings.

But it is sad that Ms. Hagan does not recognize the powerful force she ignores when she shys away from being a leader, and embraces the safer middle ground of "bi-partisanship". Those very same champions or "bi-partisanship" will knife her in the back when it suits their purpose (Senator Joe Lieberman, j'accuse!). By gaining the support of people like me, she would gain a loyal cadre of battle-hardened troops who would have her back.

I estimate that somewhere between 70-100 people were at this event. After the meeting broke up, about a dozen people approached me and thanked me for my comments. A few were quite animated that I had spoken their feelings aloud. In these days of elections won by a handful of votes, this vocal minority is ignored at peril.

Senator Hagan will have my vote if she wins the primary. I guess that's all she wants (well that, and money). I will now visit her opponent Jim Neal to see if he is a leader. Even if he is, I have no illusions about his chances. He's gay, and the the powers that be in the NC party, like Jim Hunt and Mike Easley, are not going to alienate their moderate base by backing a gay man.

But if Jim Neal is a leader, and not a politician, he'll have my vote in the primary and I'll have his back.

Nifong decrys State Bar's "unfairness"
Raleigh News

Former Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong ended his legal career last week when he mailed in his law license along with a note decrying "the fundamental unfairness" of how he was treated by the N.C. State Bar.

The bitterness in Nifong's letter, dated Aug. 7, is in stark contrast with his statements in June, when the bar's Disciplinary Hearing Commission ordered him stripped him of his law license for intentionally and repeatedly lying and cheating during his prosecution of the Duke lacrosse case.

Near the end of the June hearing, Nifong said through his lawyer that the State Bar had treated him fairly and that he would not appeal the verdict.

And there, my friends, you see WHY people like Nifong must be disbarred. He can't tell the truth to save his life.